Updated stroke data for Japanese Input

I have released a (very) small update to my Japanese Input application. The update consists of an update stroke data file. I discovered that the old file did not include the kanji 場 (Unicode U+5384), which is a fairly common kanji (and a jouyou kanji). The new file includes this kanji so you will be able to write it using Japanese Input.

The CAB and source files on the Japanese Input page now include the updated stroke data, so if you downloaded it after this post was made you should be fine. If you're not sure, simply try to write the kanji 場. If it recognizes it, you've got the new version (be sure not to confuse it with the kanji 揚, which the old (and new) version does recognize).

If you have the old version, you can either download the updated CAB file and reinstall (I recommend you soft-reset your device before doing this), or you can manually update the stroke data file, using the procedure described below.

  1. Soft-reset your device (this is to ensure the file is not in use).
  2. Download the updated strokedata.txt file (right-click, save as).
  3. Copy the file to your device (e.g. using ActiveSync or Windows Mobile Device Center), and place it in the "\Program Files\Japanese Input" folder, overwriting the strokedata.txt file that is already there.

If you are using Japanese Input and notice any other common kanji (especially if they are jouyou kanji) that are missing, please let me know.

Categories: Software
Posted on: 2007-06-08 09:52 UTC.

Comments

Chris Sappington

2007-06-10 04:53 UTC

I cannot for the life of me get this app to work. When I install it, it appears in the list of soft input panels to select, but when I select "Japanese Input", it *immediately* switches to the standard "Keyboard" input instead. I've tried this on both a Palm Treo 700wx (Verizon) and a Palm Treo 750 (Cingular). The 750 worked for a day, and the same issue returned. Is the cause of this known? Could you please get back to me on this, too? I'm anxious to get this working, since it looks great!

Thank you!

Sven Groot Author comment

2007-06-10 06:49 UTC

Hi Chris,
I'm sorry, but I do not know the cause of your issue. When Windows Mobile refuses to switch to a particular SIP, it means that the DLL refused to load, either because it was not found, it could not be loaded, or it failed with an error when loading. Unfortunately, as far as I know, there is no way to find out exactly what happened.

The closest I can come to approximating the Treo 750 is the PocketPC Phone Square Emulator, on which it works fine.

So unless you can somehow get me a Palm Treo 750, I do not see what I can do.

I'm sorry for your trouble.

Adam

2007-06-20 22:11 UTC

I was wondering if you thought your Japanese Input method would work better or worse on Windows Mobile 6 than CE-Star 2.8? My wife needs Japanese text input output on her new Windows Mobile Pro phone.

Thanks

Putra

2007-07-08 10:01 UTC

Can this software (japanese input) work in Smartphone (with Windows Mobile OS)?? Like O2 Xphone & Samsung SGH-i300x.
Thanks

Mark Sly

2007-07-09 20:26 UTC

I have the same issue as Chris. When running in English (US) mode (Settings - System - Regional Settings), the Japanese Input does not work; sends me straight to the on-screen keyboard. But when I set the regional settings to Japansee, the input works great.

The problem is that Pocket Dictionary does not work (crashes when trying to execute) in Japanese mode. If I re-set to English, the dictionary program will work, but I can't use Japanese Input.

Very frustrating.

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Sven Groot Author comment

2007-07-10 04:10 UTC

Hi Mark,

I'm very sorry, but I cannot reproduce the problem. Both in the Device Emulator and on my device, both applications work fine regardless of the regional settings (additionally, I don't have an option for Japanese regional settings at all; what language WM5 are you using?).

Felix

2007-07-18 07:49 UTC

Hello

And I got the same Problem. Using a HTC P3600 from Swisscom (OS is German). I can see the japanese option, I select meiryo as font (default was bitmap font) but I can not select it. Also when I brows the web, I can not read any japanese (even the font is installed). Any thoughts?

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Steven

2007-07-19 09:29 UTC

Hello, I'm having the same troubles to those already mentioned here. (1)is that the Japanese input doesn't come up, just switches straight back to keyboard entry, (2)is that pocket dictionary crashes just after starting. I'm using an i-mate jamin running WM5. I've tried installing and running both to a storage card and to internal memory with no change. I can also confirm that I don't have an option for japanese regional settings either. Sorry for the bad news!

szeli

2007-07-24 16:11 UTC

hi there! i have a slight problem. i get squares when i type using the Japanese Input. is there something i'm missing? thanks!

Sven Groot Author comment

2007-07-25 02:43 UTC

Hi szeli,
The squares means the font doesn't support those characters. If possible, change the font to a Japanese font. If the app you're typing in doesn't support that, I'm afraid you're stuck.

Jermaine Coakley

2007-07-25 17:59 UTC

I have a Palm Treo 750 and I'm trying to add Japanese language to it so I can read and write in Japanese through Outlook e-mail. Is this possible? I tried downloading a Japanese font and installing it on the device using ActiveSync but it does not work when reading Japanese emails in Outlook email on Windows Mobile 5. Any ideas?

Chase Beyer

2007-08-07 14:22 UTC

Hello. Thank you so much for providing all this software and information. I have one problem. When I search for a kanji using the kanji dictionary I get the following results.

"A43F3 H7GDG HS7S5 J9S7S HS76SG 0FLEWO 9SJD78D 8JD7D 5D0J3 7DHD5 こん、いま now, this,"

I get results like that. Why is it not displaying the first information? Is it in Unicode? I am running the software on a HP Ipaq 1955 Windows Mobile 5.0 with English region settings. ( When I turn it on Japanese it gives me an error when I load the dictionary. Japanese input works great though in both. do you know why the kanji dictionary is displaying all those letters and numbers when I look up a kanji?

Thanks for your help.

Sven Groot Author comment

2007-08-07 14:54 UTC

Hello Chase,
These numbers are part of the information contained in the kanjidic file, and they are displayed correctly. They are things such as index numbers. There precise meaning is given in the kanjidic documentation: http://ftp.monash.edu.au/pub/nihongo/kanjidic_doc.html

Currently there is no way to filter this information in Pocket Dictionary. On the Monash FTP site (http://ftp.monash.edu.au/pub/nihongo/00INDEX.html) you can find a utility kdfilt which can be used to remove the extra information from the file. Then you can use the filtered file instead of the regular one.

Johannes

2007-09-12 07:57 UTC

Hi! I'm glad to have found your site. I like the japanese input alot. However, I have a suggestion that would make it perfect for me :)
That is an option, that if selected, makes the program auto-print the best matching kanji after a short time-delay from the last stroke. But still keep the alternativ kanjis on the left side in case the auto-select is misstaking. Am I making any sense? ;)

Myself I am a student of the Royal Institute of Technology in Stockholm but have taken a year off to study japanese in Kawasaki. After I have completed my bachelours I want to go to TiTech to complete my masters. And yes, the typhoon nr 9 was not to play with...

Keep up the good work :)

Brendan

2007-09-16 19:16 UTC

First and foremost - thanks for putting this together. It's definitely a good tool to add to my study materials.

Now, I also have the problem of not being able to load the Japanese Input mode - it switches back to keyboard every time. I've rebooted and re-loaded the cab a few times, to try to ensure it's loaded properly, but no go. I'm using a T-Mobile MDA, with the 2.26.10.2 ROM.

irgendwer

2007-10-28 01:02 UTC

nice work, really highly appreciated.

But would it be possible to add a third intput option, namely romaji input? i.e. a simple english-keyboard where the roman letters are converted into hiragana as you type it... and perhaps than in a second step via space converted to kanji?

Sven Groot Author comment

2007-10-28 02:58 UTC

Personally I do not really see the benefit of romaji input over using the kana input.
Converting kana to kanji is a very difficult thing to do. Not only does it need a dictionary, I would also need to be able to deal with verb conjugations. Although it's a feature I would also love to have, I don't see it happening anytime soon. Sorry.

Anatoli

2007-11-07 12:23 UTC

Hi,

When I am trying to install the Cab file on my device, I get the setup window:

Installing JapaneseInputWM5.CAB

The window never disappears. Running programs doesn't show any programs running. Tried a few times after a soft reboot. Does it conflict with any other inputs?

anatoli_titarev AT yahoo DOT com

Please advise,

Anatoli

irgendwer

2007-12-17 22:22 UTC

>Personally I do not really see the benefit of
>romaji input over using the kana input.

Sorry to reply so late, but I think the main benefit would be for those owning a PDA with a full qwerty-keyboard. So one could use the keyboard to type in romaji (which is converted to hiragana) rather fast in contrast to using a soft-touch-keyboard and pointing with the stick.

This could be quite helpful if one has to look up words in the dictionary.

Christopher Creutzig

2008-01-03 21:43 UTC

Japanese Input works fine for me on WM6 on an xda orbit (German windows). However, there are some kanji I simply don't manage to input. Right now, I only remember 丼. 井 is found without problems, and I checked in another dictionary which agreed with my understanding that those are the first four strokes to write.

Shawn Kiyoshi Apodaca

2008-02-25 09:11 UTC

The problem many of you might be experiencing is what I think was unsigned DLLs (if my terminology is correct). I've heard that there is some sort of security built into Windows Mobile so that unsigned DLLs don't load on start up. I had, and continue to have the same problem on my HTC Advantage with a lot of SIPs.

David

2008-03-19 14:26 UTC

Nice soft input panel. I found this site when looking for something similar to HanziLookup for Windows Mobile 2003SE. Is there any chance you will make a chinese input version?

Steven

2008-03-23 13:54 UTC

G'day, I take it you guys can enter SA and KI using just one and two horizontal strokes respectively? I need two for SA and three for KI. So far the others seem ok. This is on WM 6.

Sven Groot Author comment

2008-03-23 15:16 UTC

Steven, the stroke data used considers "sa" a three stroke character, and "ki" four strokes. When writing either character it is usual to lift the pen while writing the "loop", causing it to be split into two strokes. This can be seen here: http://www.umich.edu/~umichjlp/Hiraganapro/sa.html

If you write the characters like that, the SIP will find them.

Steven

2008-03-24 00:47 UTC

ah. Thanks for the quick reply! I have seen them written like that before of course but don't my self and of course it didn't occur to me! :-)

Also, thanks very much for your contributions!

yanstar

2008-03-26 02:58 UTC

First, Thanks for this great Japanese Input. It really helps me out. I have a problem with kanji"聡". I can't make this letter with J.Input on my ppc. Is there anyway to write it? Thanks in advance, and I'm sorry for my poor English.

Leroy Vargas

2008-04-06 02:16 UTC

Can you have J.Input display more than 12 Kanji candidates by adding a scroll bar? I have seen some WM5/6 Chinese handwriting SIPs that do so. Displaying more than 12 candidates could be useful when you're trying to write a complicated Kanji like 鋼 (so far I can't get to write this character on my WM5, even following correct stroke order)

Need Help

2008-07-23 17:30 UTC

I've unzipped the CAB files on my PC and then dragged and dropped both the CAB file folder and the source code folder PLUS a Japanese font onto my Moto Q Global (which runs WM6) with Active Sync.

When I open the File Manager, I can see all the files, but my Q says there aren't any programs to run any of those files. What should I do?

Thanks in advance,
Need Help

ignacio

2008-07-26 17:23 UTC

What license and format is the stroke data in?

goasin

2008-09-15 14:11 UTC

want to know the most complicated kanji which got more than 57 strokes

mortilla

2009-01-03 17:41 UTC

Hello. First i want to say may thanks for such a nice software! Before Japanese Input i have tryed numerous of hacked IMEs and always had unwanted side effects. However, i'd like to make feature request. Since handwriting input unreliable in some cases, would you consider to add radical search in your SIP? There is project (http://gjiten.sourceforge.net/) where you can look for code.

hub02371

2009-01-06 21:46 UTC

Great job! I had made following updates to the stroke file on my device. Not sure if everything is correct or what was the source of reference at the time.
#2005/02/27
ヒ: BヒBfI -> BヒABf (could be also )
水: D水FaBAC -> D水BFaAC
#2005/05/15
場:-> L場FBIBFbFFFAFbgAA
#2005/10/29
号: D号BFbFFbfbg -> E号BFbFFBfbg
#2005/12/10
姉: H姉BcBaFBFBFbB -> H姉AcBaFBFBFbB
妹: H妹BcBaFFFBAC -> H妹AcBaFFFBAC
始: -> H始AcBaFAfCBFbF
#2006/01/09
服: H服BaFbFFBFbFaC -> H服BaFbFFFbaBFaC
#2006/01/22
筆: K筆AFBAFBFbFFFB -> L筆AFBAFBFbFFFFB
々: -> C々AFaC (roginized as hiragana (yellow))
#2006/01/29
最: K最BFbFFFBFFIFaC -> L最BFbFFFBFFIBFaC
忙: F忙BACBFBf -> F忙ACBBFBf
#2006/02/12
湯: L湯CCIBFbFFBAFaAA -> L湯CCIBFbFFFAFagAA
場: L場FBIBFbFFFAFbgAA -> L場FBIBFbFFFAFagAA
#2006/06/17
貰: L貰FBBFBfBFbFFFAC
#2006/08/13
料: I料CABACCCFB -> I料CAFBACCCFB
#2006/09/10
挨: -> J挨FBIAfCAFFBaC
詣: -> M詣CFFFBFbFABfBFbFF
#2006/10/27
匂: -> D匂AFbaABf

saluli

2009-02-14 20:52 UTC

Hello! I was very happy when I found this software. Unfortunately, even after installed I can´t open the Japanese input panel on pocket dictionary or word.

zee

2009-07-01 06:52 UTC

Hi! Glad to find this software, thanks for sharing! BTW, did you have the predictive input feature on this software?

Dmitry

2009-09-29 23:40 UTC

It's amazing! I have only a Windows CE 5.0 kernel (a PNA device) and was really astonished it started to deal kanji! Thank you very much, this is a very useful tool. BTW, it works with JWPce also!

Hanzo

2009-10-22 18:23 UTC

Hi! In general, the software is awesome usefully. Unfortunately the algorithm needs the 100% correct stroke order! It happens that I see a new Kanji, try to write it, but the algorithm won't find it :( But on the other hand, with this software I have learned the stroke order of the most kanjis correctly :-) So anyway, thanks a lot for it. Would be great if you update your algo so that stroke order and number of strokes will have slightly more error-tolerance.

Greets, Hanzo

Slava Vitebski

2009-11-10 14:38 UTC

Hi, amazing product!!!
While evaluating your Japanese KB I found one annoying bug: try to generate as many as possible strokes so that no suggestions available and keyboard will crash or reset device. The problem is that you forgot to put last line with 'z' character (discovered that from your source code :) )

Slava Vitebski

2009-11-10 14:40 UTC

sorry, I forgot to mention that 'z' line is missing in stroke data file.

Roberto

2010-02-28 20:47 UTC

Hi

Congratulations for the program

I have a Motorola q11, he recognizes Kanji in the Web's sites, but it doesn't recognize in the documents of Word or Adobe. Will that method of Input japanese help me?

Thank's very much

Rey

2010-03-06 15:29 UTC

Hi. I've managed to install your program to my Motorola Q8 (GSM) when my phone is in Japanese locale settings. It just that I don't know how to start the program. There is no icon whatsoever in the menu. When I checked the program files, there is a "Japanese Input" folder but none of the file there could start it.

Kindly please assist me in this matter.

Thank you very much.

Brook West

2010-04-05 08:19 UTC

This works wonderfully well with Asukal's "Let's Japan No6" which includes a Japanese font and sets the phone up to work with Japanese. My T-Mobile Wing (an HTC phone) is now fully Japanese capable. Opera Mini installed with the Japanese version and Google Maps comes up with Japanese as well. Whereas I had problems getting Japanese Input to work with my WinMobile5 phone (an MDA), it works perfectly now on the Wing.

"Let's Japan No6" is at http://asukal.net/blog/?p=364 or go to http://hn801.hkes.com/Data/Localize/LetsJapanNo6.zip for the direct download. You might want to include a mention of this on the Japanese Input page.

Thanks!

Brook West

2010-04-05 09:45 UTC

One more note - with Let's Japan No6 and Japanese Input, you can also use kanji and kana in contacts and calendar. Japanese is fully enabled on my phone.

Christopher

2011-01-29 03:39 UTC

Hello
Thank you for coming up with these great learning aids. The Pocket Dictionary runs fine, but I can't seem to get Japanese pen input working despite several attempts. I notice that other users had similar problems. IS there any troubleshooting checklist that I could go through?
Thanks

Ryan

2011-01-30 08:37 UTC

Hello. The updated strokedata.txt even does not contain the kanji 旦. If I write using correct stroke order, it gives me 且, not 旦.

maiKL

2011-12-16 09:30 UTC

same here,"料" listed in updated strokedata.txt..but cannot show this 料 kanji..stroke order is correct ..thx

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